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  Will the Watchtower Company in the near future start asking for a tithe?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears that the borg has some financial issues and i would think they are related to the hush money being paid out for the child molestation lawsuits to protect the guilty cult members and the fine untarnished reputation of the jdubs.. we have seen how much the borg refers to the hebrew scriptures for their guiding principles whenever it suits the borg's needs.

  tithing certainly is laced throughout the old testament.

  under the mosaic law, there were three tithes.

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  stan livedeath

  Kingdom Haul-------nice one..i like it.
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  Life update

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven’t been on the forum for a few years, took a major break to sort my life / head out.. a lot happens in a few years!

  is there any meet ups planned in the uk?.

  hope everyone is doing well and look forward to getting stuck in..

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  stan livedeath

  i was quick reading some of the threads you started 3 years ago--CoH---and its surprising how many other posters from back then are no longer on here.
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  Life update

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven’t been on the forum for a few years, took a major break to sort my life / head out.. a lot happens in a few years!

  is there any meet ups planned in the uk?.

  hope everyone is doing well and look forward to getting stuck in..

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  stan livedeath

  hi C o H--welcome back. are you still attending--or did you make the break?
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  What are you most passionate about?

  by SplaneThisToMe in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i had an interview today and was asked a question o have gotten in the past: what are you most passionate about?

  it was a struggle to come up with an answer on this one.

  as a jw, the things i was passionate about were chosen for me.

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  stan livedeath

  dog muck.

  or rather--the vile people who dont clean up after their animal dumps on the pavement ( sidewalk ) i would passionately shove it in their face.

  heres one i cleaned up outside my house today.

  
  
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  another business idea for watchtower PLC

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its been mentioned before---care homes.

  in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.

  the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.

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  stan livedeath

  They are awful, grey, soulless places but not a get rich quick scheme.

  trust me--in the UK the private care home industry is a get rich scheme. ive seen it from the inside.

  so--with a good-growing client base---fee income guaranteed--and access to free labour..the watchtower couldnt go wrong. obviously subject to jehovahs blessing--of course.
  
  
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  God's Wife

  by truthlover123 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to scripture, god has a wife -israel.

  he is her husband/husbandly owner.. the nation was cast off but jehovah said he would never leave israel.

  that being said, jesus spoke of israel as a spiritual nation and the 144,000 to be picked from both israel and the nations (to fulfill the number) who were to be king priests with him.

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  stan livedeath

  i would be very slightly interested where it says in the bible about the 144k also coming from the nations.
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  another business idea for watchtower PLC

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its been mentioned before---care homes.

  in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.

  the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.

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  stan livedeath

  yes--i read your earlier post Slim--thats what prompted me to write this thread.
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  another business idea for watchtower PLC

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its been mentioned before---care homes.

  in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.

  the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.

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  stan livedeath

  its been mentioned before---care homes. in the UK there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.

  but take this on board. the dubs are an ever aging customer base.

  in the UK, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes. if they have plenty of money--or equity in their property--then they pay the fees. but if they dont, having just a pension, then our local authorities pick up the bill..or most of it.

  so--the watchtower has an ever growing customer base--with the income guaranteed.

  but--on the other hand--the biggest outgoing is the staff cost.

  NOOO PROBLEM----think of the pioneers, the door knockers, the cart attendants, the construction volunteers. it wouldnt take too much persuation to get those volunteers to work for nothing where the need is great--in the watchtowewr care homes.

  in fact--its a 2 way benefit. the care volunteers get useful on the job training--for an NVQ in social care. for all i know the watchtower care home society can get funding for the training.

  "wordly" care homes are often crying out for staff--my wife regularly works 50 hours + a week in a nearby home because of staff shortages.

  so--to sum up the business plan.

  watchtower forms an arms-length company to use KH sale cash to buy sites to develope as care homes---built with volunteer labour

  an ever increasing customer base waiting to buy the service--with fees guaranteed ( in the UK )

  a large volunteer workforce ready to get stuck in. like bethel service.

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  i'll leave it to some other smart arse to think up the spin the society will need to sell the idea to the dubs.
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  Once bitten, twice shy

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok. having experienced the jdubs over 27 years.

  i have come to the conclusion that sincere people have been 'conned' into the troof, into a 'system' of beliefs that immerses them into an organisation that holds them captive ie no honourble way out without being shunned by friends and family.. having gone through this horrible experience, many are afraid to join another christian group.

  it's a bit like someone who trusted someone most of their life only to find that person was a devious lying individual.

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  stan livedeath

  i really think in this day and age, anyone still believing in the almighty hole in the sky just havent caught up yet--if they ever will.. i regard them as similar to the flat earth brigade.
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  Disfellowshipped/disassociated – How did your parents handle it?

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?.

  i don’t want to fade, so i am thinking about disassociating soon – i don’t care if i’m playing by the org’s rules, i just want out.. however, i am concerned about how my parents will react.

  i don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.. i don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but i feel like there is no way of avoiding this..

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  stan livedeath

  i am one of the few who still had close contact with my jw parents. this started in 1981. i had previously resigned as a dub--10 years before. then--in jan 81 it was announced in the hall that i was regarded as apostate and to be treated the same as a d/f person. fine with me--just what i wanted.

  life carried on with my parents-- i was their only offspring. some years later i was talking to dad about the shunning side--and he said he could not find any scriptural reason to shun his son. but i think it meant limited responsibilities in his congregation. ( not the same as the one i had previously attended ). so--winners all round ha ha.

  years rolled by. mom passed away in 1998, dad lived on till 2016, i visited him several times a week in his care home. his jw grandchildren--and even great granchildren never went near him. he was nearly 95 when he died.

  my older son--now 42 was d/f about 10 years back. his mother--a staunch born-in, totally shuns him. so she has never seen her grandson..

  this shunning is an evil controll mechanism: fortunately it is interpreted differently according to each individual dubs conscience.